[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™

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[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Oct 24, 2015 10:55:31 GMT -8 andy1144252000, enderground, and 1 more like this

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[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™
(Revised 20th September 2016)

Feel free to have a look =)

Our list has its imperfections & we are trying to improve it all the time.

Feel free to throw in your insights. Thanks :)

Credits goes to #Emeroux #Bdzmru for their contributions.

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New Stone Builds added (20th Sep' 16):

*Gaphyl - Ernesto - Jiho - Felix - Jade Rakshasa - Elua - Cashlove - Hamerus - Altair

Now our Apocalypse Stone Build list™ contains the stone builds of all players. Cheers !!

Players' Stone Build List Revision since July Major Update 2017*

All stone builds are revised. New players' stone builds will be added soon.

We've taken much time to revise the stone builds such that it will reflect the current meta more accurately.

*Feel free to share any comments or suggestions

*We've kept the previous stone build list in spoiler mode for your comparison (before/after major patch)

Discussion Thread: soccerspirits.freeforums.net/thread/463/summary-apocalypse-player-stone-revision

Terminologies:

5* build - Stone build for 5*/6* players

7* build - Stone build for 7* players with rerolled spirit stone slot attribute

5*/7* build - Stone build for 5*/6*/7* player with no rerolled spirit stone slot attribute

Striker

Brief Explanations Below + Previous Stone Build List for Comparison (Spoiler):

SPOILER: Click to show
For strikers, the current meta is damage inflicted increase meta

Having elaine+ebm front

Ardor critical damage stones

It's rumored that the effects of pen power increase increasingly up to 50% pen power while increase decreasingly beyond 50%.

Hence, 50% pen power is the rumored minimum benchmark that any striker should try to reach.

Above 50%, it might be better to increase your critical rate to crit enemy GK.

Previous stone build list for strikers:

Goalkeeper

Brief Explanations Below + Previous Stone Build List for Comparison (Spoiler):

SPOILER: Click to show
Goalkeepers are pretty straightforward;

Stack as much Crit Resist and Damage Reduction as possible;

With HP and reflexes next in order of priority

There are mainly 2 builds; PvP Build & PvE Self-Sustain Build

Previous stone build list for goalkeepers:

Assist

Brief Explanation Below + Previous Stone Build List for Comparison (Spoiler):

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Assist, is pretty straightforward also;

You either go for maximum pass effect

or

Maximum reflexes for counter attack

Previous Stone Build List for Assists:

Defender

Brief Explanation Below + Previous Stone Build List for Comparison (Spoiler):

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For defenders, some are suitable to be CM, some are not. Those that are suitable, their ball holding build will be listed

Defenders need reflex, action speed and they do not need damage reduction because defender AI will steal regardless of HP

So generally, you want your defender to move as fast as possible to steal from the enemy with reflexes for high chances of counterattack

In PvP, Ignition Catalyst (IC) will allow your defender to move first and deny enemy front as most front lines have low reflexes

Previous Stone Build List for Defenders:

Attacker

Brief Explanation Below + Previous Stone Build List for Comparison (Spoiler):

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For attackers, infinite build is for PvE (manual).

PvP, attackers are used to break the line; so they either need high CA resist or decent reflexes.

Top tier attackers usually do sufficient damage and has sufficient critical rate by themselves w/ passives only.

Lower tier attackers might need stones to buff their damage/critical rate

One advantage of attackers in PvP is that they could kill a weakened defender (after striker shot) through penetration

This will be carried out if the attacker had >80% hp upon reaching frontline

So we will be basically talking about damage, reflex, ca resist, infinite builds while assuming >100% crit rate from totems

If your attacker do not have sufficient critical rate, swap out some stones for critical rate stones;

Previous Stone Build List for Attacker:

Healer

Brief Explanation Below + Previous Stone Build List for Comparison (Spoiler):

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Healers are rarely used these days, both in PvP and PvE

Heals are nerfed in PvP while beth is preferred in PvE and infinites are used in PvE

In PvE, its all about taking hits and moving fast for healers

In PvP, stone build depends on the position you place the healer and hence his purpose/function

Healer in backline; stone build will be to prevent ball from being stolen and damage reduction

Healer in mid/front, usually acts as reflex wall against enemy lines

Previous Stone Build List for Healers:

Leader/Forward-Passer

Brief Explanation Below + Previous Stone Build List for Comparison (Spoiler):

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Leader/Passer generally have high reflexes and you want to build on those.

They are generally reflex walls in PvP or good reflex stealers;

Some has good ball holding capabilities, so you can build them to hold balls as CM;

Their problem is leader/passer AI which stops penetrating or stealing when lower HP than enemy;

This becomes a problem against Ravians/Jury etc.

So generally, you want to get enemy HP to red HP asap so all your leader will be penetrating/stealing non-stop with OP reflex.

And to do that, after getting all reflexes up, you want to:

Do as much damage as possible

Take as little damage as possible

Move as fast as possible to deal the first blow

Previous Stone Build List for Leader/Passer:

Thanks =)

Last Edit: Mar 17, 2021 5:05:15 GMT -8 by Forum Administrator

ednigami Apocalypse Posts: 1	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Oct 24, 2015 19:49:45 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by ednigami on Oct 24, 2015 19:49:45 GMT -8 nice, thanks!

Apocalypse Bronze Posts: 182	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Oct 25, 2015 21:42:41 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Apocalypse on Oct 25, 2015 21:42:41 GMT -8 *Updated for the 3rd time this week. Our list has its imperfections and we are trying to improve it all the time. Feel free to throw in your insights.

rdtx2015 Bronze Posts: 11	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Oct 29, 2015 20:26:31 GMT -8 Apocalypse likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rdtx2015 on Oct 29, 2015 20:26:31 GMT -8 i've seem people use Battalion with Metatron.. what type of build is that?

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[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Oct 29, 2015 20:41:24 GMT -8

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Oct 29, 2015 20:26:31 GMT -8 rdtx2015 said:

i've seem people use Battalion with Metatron.. what type of build is that?

Thanks for pointing that out.

How could we miss that ~ Thats the most common PvP CM ball-holding build for most Metatron.

*Updated w/ Battalion Meta @_@

Last Edit: Oct 29, 2015 20:41:59 GMT -8 by Apocalypse

Apocalypse Bronze Posts: 182	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Dec 6, 2015 20:02:21 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Apocalypse on Dec 6, 2015 20:02:21 GMT -8 Added Angela & Patricia stone builds Updated Rudiel Stone Build

kohiiro Bronze Posts: 1	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Dec 23, 2015 23:48:54 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kohiiro on Dec 23, 2015 23:48:54 GMT -8 Fontus Tissue would be bad for Lucid ? Or a good dmg build is possible with that ?

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[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Dec 24, 2015 1:27:38 GMT -8

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Fontus Tissue Sample is mainly used for its counterattack resistance.

Not for damage.

And as you can imagine, its mainly used on attackers although some people might use it on Ravian to increase her PvP shot damage.

I am sorry that I cannot say yes to your question. Lucid dont use Fontus Tissue Sample.

Last Edit: Dec 24, 2015 1:28:45 GMT -8 by Apocalypse

aokuro Bronze Posts: 7	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Dec 28, 2015 15:37:19 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by aokuro on Dec 28, 2015 15:37:19 GMT -8 Does PvP goalie Zibroi intentionally not have a unique? (Maybe something along the lines of PoME as green unique instead of action speed?)
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[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Jan 1, 2016 6:58:28 GMT -8

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Dec 28, 2015 15:37:19 GMT -8 aokuro said:

Does PvP goalie Zibroi intentionally not have a unique? (Maybe something along the lines of PoME as green unique instead of action speed?)

Thanks for your feedback.

The spirit stone build for zibroi was incomplete.

We have revised and updated the spirit stone build for goalkeepers.

Happy New Year ~!! We are back from holidays ;)

arya02220 Apocalypse Posts: 24	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Jan 8, 2016 1:26:06 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by arya02220 on Jan 8, 2016 1:26:06 GMT -8 Thank you for this guide. Is it possible if it's not too much work for you to made one for buids without unique stone as yon don't always have yet the unique you need for the builds? Thank you!

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[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Jan 8, 2016 23:36:54 GMT -8

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Unique stones are stones that most players need to become very powerful or achieve their maximum potential.

We understand that not everyone has that many unique stones for every of their players.
Most players are lacking many unique stones for their players and are working hard to farm gold to combine them.

In this stone build list, the goal is to list the ideal stone build for each player where the unique stone is necessary.

Everyone who read this stone build list, will develop a general concept of how players are actually built, relative to their role.
The plan is for the 'lacking/missing' unique stone to be food for thought for players to figure instead of us writing everything out.

If you would like to know the ideal stone to replace the unique for a specific player, thats where club chat comes into place.
Feel free to ask in our club line chat and we will work something out.

I will not be building another full list that dont include uniques. The plan is to have an ideal stone list, including uniques.
Hope that answers your question and thanks for your understanding.

Last Edit: Jan 8, 2016 23:37:22 GMT -8 by Apocalypse

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[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Feb 17, 2016 17:03:36 GMT -8 via mobile

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Post by aokuro on Feb 17, 2016 17:03:36 GMT -8

So I'm a little confused about Kiki's second and third builds, wouldn't it be better if both used light reflex and green action speed? Since light reflex/ green action speed are rare stones, and green reflex/ light action speed are not?

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[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Feb 17, 2016 21:02:47 GMT -8

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you are right. there was an error. both should have used light reflex and green action speed stones.
it has been months since the list is updated. I will update it and add the stones recommendations for new players soon.

Apocalypse Bronze Posts: 182	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Feb 17, 2016 23:40:23 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Apocalypse on Feb 17, 2016 23:40:23 GMT -8 Updated the stone build list. Corrected error in kiki stone build as pointed out by aokuro

accurseddream Bronze Posts: 15	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Feb 18, 2016 23:34:05 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by accurseddream on Feb 18, 2016 23:34:05 GMT -8 so uhhh, what confuses me is what does "infinite" type mean? also is a stone build for sharr for both pvp and pve?

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[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Feb 19, 2016 0:42:12 GMT -8

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Feb 18, 2016 23:34:05 GMT -8 accurseddream said:

so uhhh, what confuses me is what does "infinite" type mean? also is a stone build for sharr for both pvp and pve?

"infinite" means that the player recovers almost all his action bar with an action, usually with players with WoM Stone and skills like rush and with Kevin/Jeunese in his line.

arya02220 Apocalypse Posts: 24	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Feb 26, 2016 6:08:31 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by arya02220 on Feb 26, 2016 6:08:31 GMT -8 There is a little mistake for Zhen Long: It's 1 Green and 2 blue stones

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[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Feb 26, 2016 6:54:43 GMT -8

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Feb 26, 2016 6:08:31 GMT -8 arya02220 said:

There is a little mistake for Zhen Long: It's 1 Green and 2 blue stones

You are right. Thanks for pointing it out.

Cant believe it was wrong because I did check SS wiki for the stone slots but somehow, it got messed up.

Corrected it now =)

nightsx Bronze Posts: 24	[Guide] Apocalypse Player Spirit Stone Build List™ Feb 27, 2016 20:27:51 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by nightsx on Feb 27, 2016 20:27:51 GMT -8 Choi first mover also has wrong slots - he has Red/Blue/Dark - build shows IC(red) / Light? / Green? / Pen )blue) - now yeah light or green could be prism i guess but not both...